Episode #174: You’ve got Bought Mail – Consolation Rewatch

This week, we’re dissecting one other favourite consolation watch film for decor and residential inspiration.

That is an ongoing sequence for us, and this week’s choice is You’ve Got Mail, a Nora Ephron movie from 1998. That is positively a millennial consolation film to THE CORE.

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Present Notes

Our favourite design components:

Kathleen’s brownstone residence:

-Window seat
-Ornamental daisy trim across the doorways
-Hung plate assortment

Picture credit score: Jonara Oliveira

Kathleen’s bookstore “The Store Round The Nook”:

-Twinkle lights
-Checkered flooring

Joe’s residence:

-Black metals
-Sharper edges
-Fashionable fashion

Different cozy inspiration:

-Meg Ryan’s fairy hat


-Cozy outfits: cardigans, white tights with a skirt, sweaters
-’90s hair: small highlights and crisscrossed center half
-Dishevelled fits

What aged properly vs. what didn’t on this film: 

-Flirting on-line whereas in a relationship

Fee the film from 0 to five bouquets of freshly sharpened pencils:

Elsie – 5
Emma – 5

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Episode 174 Transcript:

Emma: You’re listening to the A Lovely Mess Podcast, your cozy consolation hear. This week we’re dissecting a favourite consolation watch film for decor and residential inspiration. That is an ongoing sequence for us, and this week’s choice is You’ve Bought Mail a Nora Efron movie from 1998. That is positively a millennial consolation film to the core. I used to be so excited to rewatch this one. 

Elsie: Yeah. I had such an exquisite time, we really watched it on Valentine’s Day. It’s so cozy and magical, fantastic, all of the issues. Ought to we describe it a bit, I do know there’s in all probability isn’t anybody who hasn’t watched, however simply in case 

Emma: Yeah, yeah. Go forward. Simply in case. 

Elsie: Okay, so Joe Fox performed by Tom Hanks, he’s just about an individual who owns Barnes and Noble, who’s opening a Barnes and Noble in New York Metropolis. However they don’t name it Barnes and Noble. 

Emma: They name it Fox Books. 

Elsie: Kathleen Kelly performed by Meg Ryan is the proprietor of a magical, lovely little bookshop referred to as the Store Across the Nook, which can also be proper across the nook from the imposing Barnes and Noble. They’ve turn out to be type of like on-line pin buddies within the earliest, most primitive doable model of the web. And so yeah, the film known as You’ve Bought Mail as a result of it’s nonetheless within the period the place the pc says you’ve acquired mail each time she opens her pc. It is extremely nostalgic from a know-how standpoint, form of stunning, form of jarring, it makes the passage of time actually clear. Tom Hanks is previous, however he’s not that previous, issues have actually modified on this period of time, it’s gorgeous. Past that, it’s actually a easy, cozy romantic comedy. 

Emma: Yeah, that’s what I’d say too. And in case you’re a e-book lover, then it’s a type of motion pictures the place there’s two completely different bookstores in it and many, you already know. So I really feel like plenty of occasions after I learn books, clearly, authors love studying as a result of they’re writers. So there’s plenty of like bookstores and libraries are inclined to pop up as frequent issues, so it’s enjoyable to see them in motion pictures too, as a result of I’m a e-book lover, as is Elsie, in order that’s enjoyable. 

Elsie: Yeah. So now that I’m a literary particular person, I could make feedback like this. Have you ever observed that in each single e-book and film, when there’s a literary feminine character, her favourite novel is all the time Delight and Prejudice. It’s all the time, all the time, all the time delight and prejudice each single time.

Emma: I wished to speak about that too, as a result of, I discovered it a bit of humorous. Okay, so primary, I’ll say I really like Delight and Prejudice, I actually do. It’s positively in my prime 10 or not less than the highest 20 books of all time. I Love Jane Austin, typically, Delight and Prejudice might be considered one of my favorites, so I get it, man. It’s not like I’m hating, however I additionally felt such as you personal a bookstore and your itemizing is your favourite e-book, probably the most cliche decide of all time. I simply discovered it form of unusual, as a result of they have been speaking about their favourite books and I’m like, wouldn’t you wanna decide one thing a bit of bit completely different?

Elsie: Yeah, I agree as a result of I do know book-snob folks now they usually don’t title that as their favourite novel. So anyway, simply an fascinating factor that for some motive, though it’s been about perhaps 30 years nearly since this film was made, hasn’t modified in any respect. Within the motion pictures and books, everybody nonetheless simply loves Delight and Prejudice and solely has references from that. Anyway, so let’s speak. We’re gonna dissect the film for cozy inspiration. So final time we did twilight and twilight, I’ll say it was low on the comfortable inspiration meter. Not like zero, but it surely’s decrease. This one may be very, very, very excessive on the inspiration meter, I’d name this film like Eye Sweet. I may take pleasure in watching it with the pontificate. Like simply taking a look at stills. So in case you haven’t watched it otherwise you haven’t watched it in years, Google, You’ve Bought Mail, film stills, or You’ve Bought Mail, residence and you will notice all of the issues we’re speaking about. So I wished to first discuss Kathleen’s Brownstone residence.

So this is likely one of the very, very Coziest film units, most iconic film units of, I’d say, all romantic comedies. It’s romantic comedy gold, so I like it. So let’s simply dissect for a minute. So initially, it has a window seat within the entrance front room and I simply love a window seat. I really feel like in case you have a window, an enormous window, a bay window, and there’s nothing there, you have been placed on this planet so as to add a window seat to that window, proper? 

Emma: Yeah, you must. And not less than as soon as sit there and skim a e-book, I do know you’re in all probability gonna find yourself on the sofa or in your mattress. That’s what you already know. It’s identical to the romantic thought of the place you wanna be sitting studying a e-book, which is within the window seat. 

Elsie: Take an image of your self studying there after which transfer to the sofa the place it’s extra snug, that’s positive, now we have proof of that. Okay, after which the opposite factor I’m obsessive about from this residence is that the trim across the doorways has these little daisies, like carved wooden, daisies, appliques, it’s identical to actually, actually good ornamental trim. Okay, so I wanna use this in my life. How in regards to the pink home it’s the one factor I don’t like in regards to the pink home is that it has a farmhouse, like trendy farmhouse trim. They modernized it an excessive amount of they usually additionally put barn doorways. That’s the 2 issues that I’d actually change. So I used to be making an attempt to think about a method that I may use the inspiration of this daisy trim on these doorways. Possibly I may in some way add it so I didn’t even need to take away it in some way, identical to spruce it as much as make it look extra historic.

However anyway, I’ll put both an image or a word or a hyperlink, within the present notes this week so you’ll be able to see this daisy trim up shut as a result of it’s a essential element. And for me, woodwork and molding, it’s considered one of my renovation obsessions, I like it. Don’t skip over it, if you need to put new trim up already, put cool trim, put particular trim. It is a excellent instance of one thing that’s a small distinction, however far more particular. 

Emma: Yeah. And usually, I’d say her residence feels a bit of bit like cottage vibes, however you can also very a lot inform that it’s a New York residence and it’s speculated to be a New York residence. And likewise her boyfriend firstly of the film is a author. He writes for the newspaper, I believe the Washington poster, perhaps the New York Instances. I can’t keep in mind which one they are saying within the film, however he writes for a newspaper, so he’s a author, in order that they’re each literary folks. So I really feel prefer it simply has that vibe of their residence, he has an previous typewriter. There’s simply the sensation of, this being a contemporary New York residence, however the fashion isn’t trendy, it’s extra cottagey and comfortable. 

Elsie: From my expertise, taking place a New York home procuring rabbit gap, that’s true. There are many houses the place there’s heaps and many unique molding, like one of the best unique molding I’ve ever seen anyplace, there are such a lot of, and that’s a quite common function. Possibly it’s as a result of that a part of the nation was constructed earlier. I don’t know why it’s so significantly better there. 

Emma: I believe it’s a mixture of issues being constructed earlier. You understand, like in case you have one thing that’s 100 years previous versus 20 years previous, I really feel such as you’re extra prone to preserve the hundred-year-old factor simply because. In order that, after which I additionally surprise about some areas of the nation, and I’m not a New York native, New York Metropolis native in any respect, by no means lived there. Don’t know. So it might be completely fallacious, however my impression is it may be a bit of bit tougher to renovate there. There are simply not as many Dwelling Depots and Lowe’s round such as you’re within the Midwest, like anybody can stroll in. It’s just a bit bit simpler to form of change issues. So I form of surprise if perhaps that’s a part of it too, issues get stored as a result of it’s simply extra cumbersome to alter out trim. So like why would you? 

Elsie: Additionally, it’s a much bigger renting tradition. So it’s not a lot gutting and renovating. 

Emma: Yeah, that may be my guess. 

Elsie: Then yet one more factor from Kathleen’s residence was her hung plate assortment. So each Nancy Meyers or Nora Efron film has a hung plate assortment. So only a assortment of gorgeous vintage plates all hung in a bit of assortment on a wall. I do know that it’s verifiably a grandma factor, however I additionally suppose it’s positively, you already know the fashion they name grand millennial? It’s very interested in it and I’m very into it.

Emma: Sometime we shall be grandma, millennials, hopefully.

Elsie: Okay, after which subsequent let’s discuss Kathleen’s bookstore, the store across the nook. So it’s positively the right vintage store, all the pieces is previous. It’s like wooden trim, wooden counter, all the pieces appears prefer it’s 100 years previous. And there have been a bunch of various companies all through historical past in that house. However it’s a youngsters’s bookstore. Is it only a youngsters’s bookstore or is it a bookstore for everybody? I assume I’m not clear on that. It may be each, but it surely has an enormous youngsters’s part, that’s an enormous emphasis on what they present on digital camera.

Emma: Sure, as a result of she has story time the place she reads books to youngsters and typically there’s like youngsters within the neighborhood who appear to know her, the woman from the subsequent door. So it positively is heavy on child stuff, however I can’t keep in mind within the film if they’ve grownup books and issues too. I really feel like Sure, however I actually can’t keep in mind now.

Elsie: I believe so too, I don’t know. The store may be very, very cute and my favourite element from it’s that there’s a scene the place they’re hanging twinkle lights and she or he is speaking about how she thinks there ought to all the time be twinkle lights and prefer it’s not simply Christmas factor, all the pieces simply wants twinkle lights, which is how I really feel. I fully agree. Simply get the twinkle lights out any time of yr, any day, any time I help it. Is there the rest about her, the store across the nook that caught out to you as cozy and cute? 

Emma: Possibly I’ll deliver this up now, but it surely’s in a bunch of units within the film or areas within the film, there have been so many checkered flooring like there have been tile checkered flooring. The bookshop’s, considered one of ’em, Tom Hank’s character, his residence had considered one of ’em, and there was not less than yet one more, and I can’t keep in mind now, perhaps it was within the Fox Bookstore. However I liked it. I solely have one little house in my home that has checkered flooring in my laundry room. However I simply love that look, it’s so basic. They’d completely different ones, I really feel like one was black and white, one was like two tones of brown, form of an off-white and a darker brown, which may have been the bookstore. And I simply stored seeing it within the film and I used to be like, checkered flooring. Checkered flooring, checkered flooring. 

Elsie: That’s inspiring, what number of occasions do you suppose you’ll be able to have a checkered flooring in a single home, like three or 4? Is that too many?

Emma: I imply, how large is your own home?

Elsie: In an enormous home. In an enormous home? Yeah. 

Emma: Yeah. Undoubtedly three or 4. Is it magnificence and the beast? Such as you acquired a West Wing or like what’s occurring? , 

Elsie: I dunno. No, a daily home. I’m speaking about my home. My new home. 

Emma: Yeah. Your present home? Oh, your new home. Yeah, you may in all probability have three or 4. I may have had extra, I considered placing it within the entryway too, however I don’t know. I actually love simply having one flooring in a lot of the home. However in areas which have water, just like the laundry room in case the washer and dryer are over flooring, it feels good to have tile in there, after which now we have tile within the loos. However even my kitchen has wooden flooring. 

Elsie: I really like wooden flooring within the kitchen. 

Emma: Yeah. Reverse of you, the boring model of you, that’s me. I’m like, preserve it easy. 

Elsie: That’s not true in any respect. One in all my favourite moments from your complete film is when she’s doing story time and she or he’s carrying that fairy hat, like a fairytale hat. It’s simply so cute, that’s the nonetheless from the film that I believe exhibits up most frequently on the web and it’s all the pieces. So yeah, like perhaps we have to get hats like that so we will identical to learn to our youngsters and really feel like we’re in a Nora Efron film.

Emma: Truthfully, in case you wished to turn out to be like we learn books on the library, I’d completely do it with you. It will be very enjoyable. 

Elsie: Okay, yeah, no I’d positively love to try this, that’s enjoyable. The place are another cozy interiors you observed? I do know we simply talked in regards to the flooring. I assumed the little espresso store the place they’d their meetup, the place she had the roses on the desk was very charming, and the grocery retailer. There was a grocery retailer too. 

Emma: The grocery retailer felt very New York, I liked it. It felt very large bodega feeling in there. Yeah, and I additionally really feel prefer it’s an unassuming film in that you could form of really feel like plenty of the areas simply really feel brown, however while you actually look, they’re really actually fairly. You’ll be fallacious. It’s not simply all brown, there’s much more to it. However I believe in case you have been like squinting at this film, that may be the vibe. We didn’t actually discuss Tom Hanks’ character’s residence. To me, that’s the one I’d need out of the 2. And I actually want there was a sequel to the film the place we see them cohabitate, I’m assuming they keep collectively. 

Elsie: So what options did you want about his residence particularly? 

Emma: I simply thought it felt trendy however cool and it has that, I really feel like folks name this fashion masculine. I don’t actually love the gendering decor, it doesn’t actually make sense to me. However the thought is I believe it has like black steel and form of sharper edges and it tends to be a bit of bit extra trendy. And I identical to trendy fashion, not ultra-modern, however his felt like that. There was even some form of fancy espresso machine, I really feel like that’s like out on his countertop. It simply felt like a really, I’m a enterprise particular person, however this nonetheless has fashion, which I used to be all for. I’m a enterprise particular person, however I nonetheless have fashion. 

Elsie: The wealthy dad of a Nora Efron film vibe. Yeah. I may see that being like your dream home, That is smart.

Emma: Yeah, out of the 2 flats, I liked hers too, however I used to be like, I’d wanna reside in his if I needed to reside in one of many two. Which is humorous trigger I believe you’d reside in hers and so then we may go to one another and it’d be nice. 

Elsie: That’s true. Yeah. We might like to have our personal separate romcom homes. Okay, that is on my notes and I don’t suppose it’s gonna come into play anyplace. However I’ve two humorous issues about Joe Fox. Initially, I believe Joe Fox is a really fake-sounding film title. Do you suppose that I simply can’t recover from the title Joe Fox. It’s making an attempt so exhausting to be informal that it sounds fully made as much as me.

Emma: Yeah, and for no matter motive, and there in all probability is somebody on the planet named Joe Fox, however they simply sound separate from one another, which to me is all the time like a, oh, that is only a title in a e-book, you already know, or no matter as a result of they don’t really feel they’re an actual particular person they usually go collectively. I don’t know why although. It doesn’t actually make sense. Possibly as a result of they’re each so quick, I don’t know. He does spend a part of the film, not saying his title or making an attempt to omit it. I don’t suppose he’s actually mendacity. He’s simply form of not saying he’s his title.

Elsie: He’s mendacity, he’s making an attempt to not inform her who he’s, for positive.

Emma: Yeah. He realizes she’s not gonna be pleased with who he’s as a result of he realizes she owns the small bookstore and his bookstore might be gonna put her outta enterprise. So he form of is like hiding his title loads. So perhaps that’s a part of it’s we are supposed to not know his title for a part of the film or we all know that it’s being hidden. 

Elsie: Okay, the opposite factor is, that is like my favourite second of the film quote or no matter, like a humorous quote, and Jeremy and I’ve been saying it continuously as a joke, however I really feel like that is very like quintessential Nineteen Nineties in a method that it doesn’t exist anymore. However once they’re within the espresso store collectively, he like places up his finger and orders a mocha decaf non-fat, like that’s his espresso order, it’s so loopy and like random, and likewise it doesn’t make sense. It’s such as you’re ordering a decaf non-fat frappuccino, it’s insane. 

Emma: Yeah, it’s like, okay, you need a chocolate milkshake however no fats, that’s horrible. 

Elsie: Yeah, I really feel like within the olden days, it was like the start of Starbucks tradition when Starbucks and solely grand millennials or grandma, millennials can keep in mind this, however like when Starbucks was really so cool. There was a second the place it was like, I’m going to Starbucks and in You’ve Bought Mail has this as a result of in one of many opening scenes, it exhibits New York Metropolis, after which it exhibits a Starbucks, it’s when Starbucks was so cool, it was not frequent. It was pretentious or fancy. I believe that individuals used to take pleasure in having the longest doable espresso orders.

Emma: Yeah. I believe it was a standing image in a method, and perhaps this exhibits my age cuz I used to be early twenties and tremendous broke. So the thought of ordering a $6 drink at Starbucks was like, oh no I can’t do this, I’ve no cash for that. So while you heard somebody form of get some form of grande or venti, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you’re like, wow, you have to be a wealthy particular person. You could have this signature drink factor that you simply’re into, which Joe Fox is clearly wealthy due to Younger’s Barnes and Noble. 

Elsie: I like it. I like it, his character’s so nice. Okay, so trend, I believe that Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan are the icons of the Nineteen Nineties, particularly in romcoms and their outfit outfits are very cozy. She’s carrying a cardigan and a costume with a cardigan. There’s one the place she has white tights and a skirt and it’s so cute. Sweaters, it feels very fall time. 

Emma: Yeah, additionally, Meg Ryan is beautiful, however she additionally has that very nineties hair to me, the place it has the very small highlights after which she does her center half the place it’s like forwards and backwards, crisscross. The crisscross center half, which is simply so nineties, like very highschool to me, which I really graduated in 2004, so I assume center college for me, no matter, you get it. 

Elsie: I did the crisscross half within the nineties although, I’m not ashamed to say it.

Emma: Everybody did it. For those who weren’t doing it, it’s such as you didn’t know. 

Elsie: It’s true, everybody wished to have hair like that within the nineties. However yeah, so far as their fashion, I don’t know if there’s like something they have been carrying. I believe I’d put on perhaps the factor with the tights. I simply suppose it’s like a basic vibe greater than an precise outfit to duplicate.

Emma: I additionally suppose that is an period the place Tom Hanks’, Joe Fox, fits aren’t fairly as fitted. Issues are extra dishevelled, which has really come again round. I really feel like we’re seeing plenty of that now Within the final 5 years, it’s much more dishevelled garments and bagger issues, folks aren’t doing the tremendous tight fitted as a lot. However yeah, that’s positively on this film, which is humorous as a result of some years after this, I really feel like all males’s fits have been very tailor-made. It’s not that they have been essentially tight, however they have been very like, they’d a match. 

Elsie: Oh, they acquired tight, they acquired very tight in some current a long time.

Emma: Yeah, however his felt dishevelled, not fitted, not tailor-made in that method but. Regardless that clearly his character’s high-end, it’s not like these are low-cost fits. You don’t have that impression. It’s simply type of a unique period for trend. 

Elsie: Yeah, it’s positively a unique period for trend. Yeah. Okay, so we all the time do that. What aged properly and what didn’t age properly within the film? I didn’t take any notes of something that made me cringe. I can’t consider something off the highest of my head, however I assume the know-how is gorgeous, it’s stunning. How completely different the early web was from what it’s now. I really wrote down a quote that somebody mentioned within the film and mentioned, I attempted to have cyber intercourse, however I stored getting the busy sign like they’re simply so primitive. It’s so early web and I believe that everybody, I used to be gonna say You’ve Bought Mail ought to be a film that performs in colleges as a technique to educate folks that it wasn’t that way back, like to show children like our niece’s age, who’s 13. It wasn’t that way back that individuals didn’t have web or that it was model new to them and that is the way it appeared. And that is how computer systems appeared and like they didn’t have telephones. Simply all this stuff like that I believe could be form of fascinating for youths to see. 

Emma: Yeah, and I imply, the thought of assembly somebody in a chat room after which turning into form of web pen buddies to me sounds form of like, Ooh, I don’t find out about that.

Elsie: It doesn’t sound cute anymore. 

Emma: Yeah, it doesn’t sound cute anymore however assembly somebody by means of a courting app sounds actually regular to me. That is just like the model that they’d of that principally. However anyway, yeah, so there’s that. I’ve all the time felt a bit of bizarre about, I don’t know if that is an getting old factor, like did it age properly, however not less than watching this after I was youthful and now, I don’t love that they’re form of each in relationships after which they’re type of flirting with anyone else on-line. However I additionally suppose they form of deal with it all through the film in several methods. I do know they actually do, like when Meg Ryan’s character has her breakup, which I really actually like that scene. I really feel prefer it’s a really grownup breakup the place each individuals are very respectful and it form of showcases that breakups typically occur simply because this simply has run its course and that’s okay. And we will nonetheless respectfully half and be trustworthy with one another about it. And I really suppose it’s a very good breakup scene. Yeah, I’ve all the time felt a bit of bizarre about that, however I get it relationships are messy and I do suppose they form of deal with it in locations. However yeah, I don’t know, it’s form of bizarre. 

Elsie: Yeah, I’d agree with that. However I actually didn’t give it a lot thought after I was watching it. 

Emma: You have been identical to, present me extra interiors. 

Elsie: I assume for me, I wished to see her on the finish, I believe she’s beginning to write a e-book perhaps, it’s like she’s beginning to get a brand new dream as a result of her retailer does find yourself closing and he does find yourself profitable and it’s like Barnes and Noble, no matter. I believe it’s humorous how a lot the fame of Barnes and Noble has modified as properly as a result of now I believe it’s like an endangered species to be protected and within the nineties, it was like a monster to be stopped and now there’s a unique monster now. Anyway, I considered her character, I’d’ve liked for her to both win or discover a resolution, discover a pivot or like some form of resolution for it, or discover a new dream that was larger and higher. That she expressed she was very enthusiastic about it. They form of alluded to it, but it surely didn’t fairly, in order that’s in all probability the factor I’d change for her. It may have been a very good half too, although. 

Emma: Yeah, I do suppose the sequel to this is able to be actually fascinating and enjoyable. Yeah, however I additionally, realize it’s a remake and there isn’t one other, so it’s like, okay, that’s cool too.

Elsie: There’s not gonna be a remake.

Emma: Yeah, there’s not gonna be a sequel until aside from fan fiction. 

Elsie: I cried on the finish. Did you cry a bit of? Did you get a bit of tear? 

Emma: No, however I do like their love story. I do like the concept that they’ve gotten to know each other by means of letters, and she or he mentions that Delight and Prejudice is her favourite e-book, and it form of vibes that method in that she misunderstands him they usually considerably misunderstand one another. Like, Mr. Darcy, you don’t know why he’s doing a number of the issues he’s doing. When she meets him on the espresso store and he has his ridiculous mochaccino order, she thinks he’s simply teasing her and antagonizing her and she or he doesn’t acknowledge that he’s the particular person she was ready for, he’s the particular person on the pc. So, that’s actually enjoyable and I believe they did a pleasant job with that and it’s pleasant. 

Elsie: No, I imply it’s cute such as you need them to be collectively, they need to be, there’s no different ending for this film. So we’re gonna go into trivia time now. So that is all, really, I don’t know the place I grabbed this from, in all probability I M D B or one thing. Yeah, I like love trivia about actors, motion pictures, film units, like the place was movies, like all forms of stuff, so we’re simply gonna geek out for a bit. The casting of Dave Chappelle as Kevin Joe’s pal and confidant happened as a result of 4 years beforehand, Chappelle was supplied the position of Bubba in Forrest Gump, which is in 1994, hank’s large blockbuster film, which got here as a worldwide phenomenon. Chappelle turned down the position of Bubba as a result of he felt Forrest Gump would flop on the field workplace, which gave me the largest miniature tear for him. That’s a tragic one. I’m positive Dave Chappelle is doing simply positive, however you need to reside with that. That’s in all probability the humorous factor about being an actor you need to choose every script by simply your individual impression and what you’ve seen earlier than it, and also you simply by no means know, proper? 

Emma: Yeah. Properly, and there might be a terrific script after which just like the director simply takes a bizarre flip or vice versa, and the script’s form of weak, you by no means know. And Forest Gump is a bizarre film, so I may form of see studying the script and being like, I don’t know if I wanna play this position. This looks as if a extremely unusual film, I’m undecided as a result of fairly the film.

Elsie: Yeah, no, no. I believe it’s considerably not acceptable by right this moment’s requirements, however on the time it was Blockbuster. Okay, let’s go to the subsequent one. 

Emma: All proper, the youngsters’s bookstore scenes have been filmed at Maya Shaper’s cheese and Vintage Store. I’m undecided if I’m saying that accurately, however there it’s and it’s at 106 West 69th Road. The filmmakers wished to make use of the vintage store as a result of it had a quaint, homey really feel that they have been going, they usually have been proper, they usually despatched the proprietor of the vintage store on trip for a number of weeks, and whereas she was gone, they turned it right into a youngsters’s bookshop. After the filming was completed, they put all the pieces again the best way that it was. I’m wondering if the shops smelled like cheese the entire time they have been filming. I’m like, cheese and vintage store. 

Elsie: Okay. Initially, I don’t know if that is nonetheless a New York Metropolis institution, but when it is aware of is I’d like to go to a cheese and vintage store. There’s this one place in Nashville that it’s like a present retailer, they usually have this little cheese fridge it’s like champagne and cheese and I like it each single time. It’s like form of like you may get a bit of charcuterie to go, it’s so candy. Anyway, I believe that they positively discovered the right location. So whoever did the scouting, I believe they need to make miniature, Oscars for no matter awards I believe folks ought to get. 

Emma: I believe there are extra awards than we see on the present. I believe that they’ve one other for extra technical areas. So perhaps there’s one for locating the right spot.

Elsie: Yeah, like scouting areas I believe is an artwork and it’s very interesting to me. I’d like to be if anybody’s scouting a location for a Nora Efron esque film, and you must rent an inexperienced, highly-paid, blogger. Okay, Nora Efron organized for Meg Ryan and Heather Burns to work in actual New York Metropolis bookstores in preparation for his or her roles earlier than filming. The shop was Books of Surprise in Manhattan and the roles lasted for a few week. I believe that may be useful really. I all the time say that I wanna write a novel sometime. So I all the time say that considered one of my lapses in judgment is that I’ve by no means labored in a restaurant and it’s such an enormous a part of tales. I believe that having experiences like that may be, that make a lot sense. I believe working in a bookstore for per week additionally would simply be enjoyable.

Emma: Yeah, I believe so too. 

Elsie: I wager they have been so excited to have Meg Ryan of their bookstore. 

Emma: I’m wondering in the event that they put her within the again or one thing as a result of I really feel like she would in all probability not get a lot carried out if she was on the ground, everybody could be like, excuse me, are you, Meg Ryan? However yeah. And I additionally suppose I’m not an actor, however I’d really feel like I’d wanna know, even one thing easy like that, like how do you learn inventory books? I wanna be taught that from somebody who’s carried out it. If I used to be gonna do a scene the place I used to be a librarian, I’d wanna go work with a librarian so I perceive like how are you doing this? And what’s probably the most environment friendly method? As a result of somebody’s gonna see this, who’s a librarian, and I need them to really feel like they’re seen, I acquired it I do know what you’re doing. I do know the little methods as a result of there are all the time little issues that somebody in an trade is aware of that, different folks in all probability don’t know as a result of why would you? 

Elsie: Sure, I believe that’s a terrific thought. And understanding like what you do between, you already know, while you’re not checking somebody out and also you’re not placing books on a shelf, what different issues are you want strolling round doing? 

Emma: The subsequent one is fairly humorous. I believe the situation of Fox Books within the film is the situation of Actual life, Barnes and Noble. It’s at Broadway and 83rd Road on the higher West aspect. You may actually inform, yeah, that Barnes and Noble generated appreciable neighborhood opposition when it opened within the early Nineteen Nineties. So very true to the movie.

Elsie: Yeah, I really feel like in our lifetime now we have seen such a shift in folks’s notion as a result of I keep in mind when Barnes and Noble have been thought of like nearly boycottable due to small bookstores and all of that. Nevertheless it’s simply so completely different now. I’m simply blissful that it exists, I’m blissful I can take my children there. I additionally am glad that like 30 years sooner or later we nonetheless have small bookstores as properly, in our cities. So it’s like we’re all nonetheless coexisting, nobody was, totally extinct, which is nice. 

Emma: Yeah, over the weekend, simply humorous sufficient, I actually went to our Barnes and Noble and considered one of our native bookstores right here in Springfield. I took my son, Trey, and I went with Oscar to Barnes and Noble, and he picked out some books then the subsequent day whereas Oscar’s napping, Trey stayed residence and I went to the native bookstore, Pation Bookstore, the one I took you to. I acquired some issues for myself, it’s a bit of me time. 

Elsie: I can’t wait to go to that bookstore on a regular basis. I really suppose, although, right here’s my manufacturing. Truly, that is apparent, however I believe that ultimately Barnes and Noble gained’t exist anymore, however native bookstores will nonetheless all the time be round. I believe that native bookstores, there’ll all the time be a spot for that, proper? Hopefully Barnes and Noble will final so long as it might probably too. 

Emma: Yeah, I actually went to each this weekend, so it’s working for me. 

Elsie: Yeah, my children like it, they name it the bookstore with a stage, they just like the stage, I get it. It simply has far more character books than the native bookstore which is what they need.

Emma: Yeah. Oscar acquired, what did he get? He acquired a e-book that’s formed like a automobile and it has wheels on it. He loves vehicles after which has a unique automobile all through the e-book. After which we additionally acquired Lama Lama Purple pajamas as a result of he didn’t personal that one but. 

Elsie: Oh, the Lama Lama sequence and the section of parenting are a number of the prime, greatest reminiscences of my complete life. Everytime you’re prepared, I’ve all of the Yodo card too. Okay, so Meg Ryan acquired her very first pc through the filming of this film, that has acquired to be my favourite reality. And yeah, it actually was, this was the time. What yr did it say this film got here out? 1998, in order that they have been filming it in all probability in like 1997 or six. And other people have been nonetheless getting residence computer systems. We’ve to look at this with Penny, let’s attempt to try this. Watch it with Penny and Bella sometime and simply see their reactions as a result of we have been in highschool or I used to be in highschool when this film got here out. To me, it’s an previous film, but it surely was not likely previous.

Emma: It’s fairly previous. We’re previous man. 

Elsie: No, yeah, it’s previous, however I imply, I wasn’t a bit of child when it got here out. Are you aware what I imply? Yeah. It’s so fascinating, I just like the know-how time capsule ingredient of it’s unmatched.

Emma: Okay, subsequent trivia is considered one of Nora Efron’s signature filmmaking quirks was her use of songs to intensify plot factors. So one of many chief components that led her movies to be termed chick flicks. When Meg Ryan and Tom Hank’s characters lastly meet in particular person each understanding that they’ve been emailing one another, the tune over the rainbow performs on the movie soundtrack and the duo shared a scene with the identical tune in Sleepless in Seattle.

Elsie: That’s cute. I haven’t watched Sleepless in Seattle in current historical past, so perhaps we’ll have to try this one over time, that’s actually candy. I believe that they’re like a very good film couple for positive. Okay, the subsequent one is Kathleen’s Bookstore is the store across the nook an homage to a film? The film was based mostly on 1940. I really examine that a few occasions. In order that’s cute, proper? It’s named after a film.

Emma: Yeah. I’ve by no means seen the unique of You’ve Bought Mail, I haven’t seen. That is the remake and I’ve by no means seen the unique one.

Elsie: They’re saying the film was referred to as The Shopper on the Nook, not You’ve Bought Mail.

Emma: Yeah, so isn’t You’ve Bought Mail a remake of one other film I believe it’s referred to as Store Across the Nook and the know-how’s completely different. The opposite one is letter writing however this one is just like the web, very completely different know-how, but it surely’s like the identical film.

Elsie: Oh, okay, nevermind. I simply realized one thing new. That’s superior. Then we must always watch that, that’s cool. I assumed it was simply the title, that’s so fascinating. I don’t watch plenty of motion pictures earlier than the fifties and I want to, I’d need to, and even like motion pictures from just like the 20s, 30s, and forties, it’s fairly uncommon to seek out them streaming and likewise to seek out them being really useful or know what they’re about. They don’t have trailers so you’ll be able to’t test them mountain that method. So yeah, if anybody has type of a primer for previous motion pictures earlier than 1950, the place it’s like prime three, one thing like that, that’s manageable. I’d love to listen to it as a result of I believe that’s one thing I’d wish to get into, however I’ve not watched hardly any, largely simply horror.

Emma: Yeah, I used to be gonna say, I really feel like it’s essential to have seen some previous horror. I do know you guys have seen the seventies, however there’s gotta be some previous ones, you already know, Hitchcock-era stuff. Ought to we give this a score? 

Elsie: So the score is from zero to 5 bouquets of freshly sharpened pencils. I simply suppose there’s no method it’s getting a 5. Truly, I wanna offer you mine. I need mine to be, mine is 5 Mochaccinos decaf, non-fat. Yeah, I liked it. I believe I’ve watched it really twice within the final two years, which I believe is a bit of an excessive amount of, however as soon as each three to 4 years I believe is an effective quantity. For those who haven’t watched it in 5 years, watch it like instantly. It’s fully fantastic and iconic and I don’t know, I really feel prefer it’s a fall film and a spring film too, in order that’s exhausting to say cuz it has each.

Emma: Yeah, it has all seasons, and Yeah. And perhaps we talked about this in one of many different rewatch episodes, I can’t keep in mind, however I really feel like they’re not making as many romcoms which can be large as in theaters. I believe they’re extra like Netflix has its personal, or HBO Max has its personal which remains to be cool and I nonetheless like watching these, however I really feel like there aren’t as many romcoms have been like everyone revisits these. I believe it’s actually enjoyable to see what was the factor that was within the film theaters and everyone went with their mother. 

Elsie: Do you suppose there was a Romcom period?

Emma: Yeah. I really feel like now it’s like, issues which can be in film theaters are typically extra, it appears like motion and like family-friendly issues. Which is cool, I like each of these. However I really feel like I don’t see as many romcoms which can be like everyone noticed within the theaters, not that everybody even goes to the theaters anymore. I form of missed that period, I like revisiting all these. 

Elsie: Yeah, we’ll preserve doing romcoms, we are going to dig for the gold as a result of there are such a lot of and I really feel like we’ll in all probability do consolation re-watches for not less than a few years as a result of there are such a lot of motion pictures on our listing. We’re not gonna get to them rapidly.

Emma: Oh yeah, folks e-mail us new ones each week. 

Elsie: So it’s true, I really like these emails. Okay, it’s time for everybody’s favourite a part of our present, A joker, a reality with Nova, and I believe this week now we have a joke.

Nova: This week the joke is, what’s Santa when he stops? 

Elsie: What’s he? 

Nova: Santa Pause. Get it, he pauses for a second. 

Elsie: That’s actually good, I like that one. You wanna say bye. 

Nova: See you quickly and have a terrific day. 

Elsie: When you’ve got a consolation re-watch request, we’d love to listen to it. Our complete listing is only a request. So e-mail us anytime at podcast@ lovely mess.com. And yeah, we’ll be again subsequent week with our spring bucket listing episode.